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Important: The opinions expressed here are those of the individual contributors to these pages, and not those of the Catalina 380 International Association or Catalina Yachts, Inc. 

It is also important to note the hull number of the boat referenced in the comments by the owners.  Catalina is continually making changes to the design of the boats. Changes that were made on an older or newer boat by an owner may not be needed on your boat.

Double Bow Roller
Submitted By:  Tom Lincoln Hull #205 11-5-02
Subject:  Other Equipment

We've been chatting on the Sailnet e-mail list on the desirability of a double-bow roller, particularly for extended cruising, for over a year.  Catalina has recently responded by providing this feature on new C380's & 390's.  But what to do if your boat doesn't have this?  Following is the first of at least two articles on retrofitting your boat to gain the advantage of two bow rollers.  This is from Tom Lincoln, # 205 "Ridge Runner", who is on quite an extended cruise. 

  We prepared our C380, Ridge Runner, for cruising and living aboard.  For the past year and a half we have cruised the Great Lakes, The East Coast from NY to Florida and next year: The Bahamas. We have done many things to make the boat a better and safer cruiser. One of the most important, and possibly one of the easiest, was to remove the anemic existing anchor roller and replace it with a double system. We spent a lot of time about a year ago on the C380 sailnet site discussing the issues with many C380 owners. We had tried to convince Catalina to design a double roller for our boat, but to no avail. Catalina never could figure out why it is necessary to carry two anchors on the bow. They don’t have to anchor using a Bahamian moor in California. On the East Coast it’s a different story. Often along the ICW the tidal range is high, about nine feet in Georgia, plus the current is strong and the anchorages sometimes are narrow and crowded. With a single anchor, every time the current changes [about every six hours] the anchor will usually be pulled out and then has to re-set itself. I don’t think so Vern!  I would be up all night with that arrangement. With two anchors deployed about 180 degrees apart, the anchors always stay dug in; they just alternate holding the boat every six hours. The worst problem is that the rodes sometimes get twisted at the bow, but they can never trip each other. By the way, we use all chain for one anchor and a combination of nylon and chain for the other. I slide a 20-pound weight [aka: "sentinel" - ed] ten feet down the nylon rode to hold it below the keel when it is slack so there is no chance it can catch on the keel.

I tried contacting several fabricators but finally realized that the C400 has a double roller.  I measured the roller on a C400 in our yard and to my surprise it seemed like it would fit my boat.  I ordered one from Catalina and found it to be a good fit. The roller assembly is beefy to say the least. It has two rollers and is fabricated of much heavier material than the roller on the C380. We have used it for about a year and a half anchoring often. In one storm with winds up to 65 knots, we dug the anchor in so deep we had to run over the anchor with about half throttle to pull it out. Other times we have snagged logs and other unknown debris with no damage. It is strong and gives me a great secure feeling. I am sure we would have bent the standard roller down by now.

The C400 roller is a completely different design than that of the C380. It is a massive plate that is shaped like the deck at the bow and has about a 1.5” lip down on the sides and at the bow. It is designed to cap the deck at the bow. It passes over the forestay chain plate and is thru-bolted with massive bolts through the top of the deck and through both sides where the 1.5” lip passes down the sides of the deck. The two roller assemblies are the same length, an unfortunate drawback: it would be better if they were staggered. We have, however, used it very successfully.

The cutout in the deck plate fit exactly over the chain plate. I think the architectural drawing for the two boats were the same at the bow as far as the plan view is concerned. There is about a 0.75” gap on each side of the turned down lip of the deck plate and the bow of the C380. What is odd is that it seems that the C400 had a similar gap.

The following is a step-by-step installation procedure:
1.                  Secure the mast with heavy lines from the masthead to the two bow cleats. I used the two Genoa halyards. Release the tension on the mainsheet so it doesn’t pull the mast aft. Ease the backstays.
2.                 
Release the forestay and move the furler off to the side [you may want to remove headsail first--Tom had no problem leaving it on furler-ed]
3.                  There is a small round inspection port at the bow inside the anchor locker. I completely removed this port so I could have more room to maneuver wrenches blindly under the deck. The port had to be demolished to get it out but the replacement is cheap.
4.                  Unbolt the old roller. Try to sell it to some one else. Anybody need a second bow roller?
5.                  The existing roller fits in a trench that is molded into the bow plus there is a little bit of the foredeck that protrudes above the deck proper on both sides of the trench. The roller is pitched up slightly so that some of the trench is below the deck while a small amount is above the deck.
6.                  This is the point of no return. After removing the old roller assembly, grind away the small protrusion where the old roller resided. After the area is flush with the rest of the deck, seal this area with epoxy. No need to worry about cosmetics: the new anchor roller completely covers the bow including the ground out area.
7.                  Make a tapered block of Starboard to fill the back part of the trench that held the old roller. Take this all the way to the anchor locker. The taper is necessary so that when fitted in the trench it is flush with the deck.
8.                  I also made small shaped blocks of starboard to fit on both sides of the roller to fill the gap between the side deck and the turned down lip of the roller assembly. I didn’t take enough time to make these plates fit as nice as I should have. They really are only cosmetic. On the C400 there is nothing to fill the gap, it just doesn’t look so good on the C380. The 400 has a metal toe rail that buts up to the plate and hides the gap.
9.                  The roller has four countersunk holes on top and three stand holes on each side of the turned down lip. Be sure to use flat head bolts on top for the two center holes. Hex bolts would hang up the anchor chain as it runs over the plate.  I used hex bolts for the other two because they are easier to tighten. Be careful with your tools under the deck. If you drop any, it will disappear below the anchor locker.
10.              I used 0.375" aluminum backing plates for the bolts. Of course use lots of bedding compound and tighten the bolts.
11.              The anchor locker cover is a problem in that it does not accept two anchor shanks very well. I did some custom hacking on it but it still needs some refinement. It’s a little rough right now. It may be necessary to remove some of the cover up front.
12.              Replace the small inspection/access port; reconnect the forestay and you're done.

We have two anchors mounted and ready to run all the time. [see photos 3, 4, 5] 

The port anchor is the primary anchor and is all chain, which is captive in the windlass. (This is another problem for another time) The starboard roller is our secondary, which is 30 feet of chain and 275 feet of 5/8" Nylon. I have fabricated a shelf that holds the secondary anchor rode above the primary rode when stored in the locker.

We use two style anchors at the bow: a 35-pound Delta and a FX37 Fortress. Depending on the bottom types, I may switch the two. In soft oozy mud, I use the Fortress as the primary and for nearly everything else the Delta is the primary. Neither anchor will hit the boat when it is home in the rollers.

Because the rollers are not staggered it is necessary to rotate the starboard anchor (secondary anchor) so that its flukes are vertical and point out to the starboard side. This is required so that the secondary anchor does not interfere with the chain as the primary anchor is hauled in. This is a minor nuisance but it is easier to do than it sounds. Once the anchor is pulled in and rolled 90 degrees, the retainer bar and side plate of the roller holds it so it doesn’t rotate back to its natural position.

The primary anchor is pulled in using the windlass and, with careful use of the foot switch, it is pulled home and locks the secondary anchor in place.

That’s it. A fairly easy upgrade for a major issue, especially when cruising the ICW and The Bahamas.

 

Anchor Windlass Circuit Breakers
Submitted By:  Earl Poe Hull #140 10-98
Subject:  Other Equipment
I have received a copy of a letter dated 10/15/1998 from Catalina regarding the anchor windlass circuit breakers on 380's and 400's.  Apparently, some boats left the factory with 80 amp. breakers in stead of the 135 amp. It's only a problem under high loads, but all should check. The red PUSH-PULL bottom button has the capacity stamped on it.  Should you have the 80, contact Ralph Torres @ Seaward.

 

Rail Pads
Submitted By:  Dave Peffer Hull #20 10-98
Subject:  Other Equipment
Rail pads, covered in Sunbrella fabric to match your bimini, for the stern pulpit rails behind the pulpit seats. These make sitting in these seats a real pleasure.  They are available from ABC, Inc, 1-800-877-4797.

 

Riggers Gauge
Submitted By:  Dave Peffer Hull #20 10-98
Subject:  Other Equipment
The Professional Riggers’ Gauge, a plastic card which instantly measures inside and outside sizes of most tubing, standing rigging, line and electric wire. Easy to store and it answers your size questions on the spot. Note: I am an investor in this item, which I recognized as a winner as soon as I saw the prototype, which is now in my toolbox.  It is available from ABC, Inc, 1-800-877-4797.

 

Anchor Detent
Submitted By:  Dave Peffer Hull #20 10-98
Subject:  Anchor
The anchor locker provides no place to install a chain lock, which is required to keep the anchor locked on the roller underway. I made one up as follows: a short length of 3/16" stainless wire (length depends on the length of your anchor stock) with a lifeline pelican hook (West Marine model #543132, which adjusts in length) swaged on one end, a stainless thimble nice-pressed on the other. A galvanized shackle attaches this to the bitter-end padeye in the anchor locker. The pelican hook goes through a chain link as close as possible to the anchor, and the adjustment on the hook allows this to be snug. The anchor is not going to fall overboard. This can also be used to snub the chain and allow you to transition the chain to the gypsy while raising the anchor if you do not have a line-to-chain splice on the rode.

 

Anchor Chain Specifications
Submitted By:  Dave Peffer Hull #20 5-98
Subject:  Anchor
The Maxwell windlass manual calls for using ‘5/16" short-link’ chain. They have kindly clarified this, and recommend A.C.C.O. 5/16" high test chain spliced to 5/8" 3-strand or multi-plait nylon anchor line. If you want to use the windlass’ ability to handle both line and chain on the gypsy, a short, tapered splice is required on multi-plait and a full three-part splice (all three strands going through the chain link) is recommended for three-strand. You may get more information or order pre-spliced chain-rode combinations from Maxwell: 1610 Babcock St, Costa Mesa, CA 92627, phone 714-631-2634. 

Please note that 5/16" proof-coil chain, the kind most commonly available at boating stores, slips on the Maxwell gypsy and is VERY DANGEROUS to use. 5/16" BBB chain fits the gypsy perfectly, but it is not as strong as the chain recommended by Maxwell. 

Whether you need an all-chain or a chain-line combination rode is a function of where you anchor and personal preference, but at least 40 feet of chain is recommended. The C380 does not ‘swim’ at anchor so much as lighter boats do, but at least one boat-length of chain will ensure a sounder hold as wind/current varies. And you’ll sleep better.

     

Anchor Locker Washdown System
Submitted by:  Dave Peffer Hull 3 20 5-98
Subject:  Hull Machinery
Dave Peffer, Hull #20, ‘Spindrift’ has installed a SHURflo Blaster washdown system to clean the chain and anchor as they come aboard. The pump fit on the forward bulkhead under the v-berth sink, taking water from the sink drain. The sink drain plug fits tight, and prevents sucking air when the system is activated. Be sure to replace the drain tubing with non-collapsing hose, which must also be used for the run from the tee to the pump. Double clamp all hose connections. Dave opted not to put a filter in line before the pump to keep pressure high, but will add one if the pump clogs. The hose and electric wire go up through the hole in the cabinet above the sink (used for the amidships water tank fill and vent) with a little extra reaming, then forward in the wiring chase above the v-berth to the space beneath the anchor locker. Dave used a Perko hose bib on the port side of the locker and a waterproof on/off switch, which may be placed in any convenient location in the locker. The switch was fed from the HOT side of the windlass switch, the ground from the windlass itself. This ensures that the pump will not operate unless the windlass circuit is active. He uses a VELCRO strap from BOAT/U.S. to keep the hose coil neat in the anchor locker when not in use and to hang the coil on the bow pulpit out of the way when working in the locker.
Staying Warm
Submitted by:  Scott Brear Hull # 31 5-98
Subject:  Cabin Machinery
After good meals, a key factor in crew comfort is adequate cabin heat. What a treat a warm cabin is after a cold watch...and how nice it is to be able to dry clothes at sea! We have had experience with diesel heaters before in our Catalina 42 and friends’ boats. They are very economical to run (about 0.5 liters per hour), are quiet/safe in operation, and offer loads of nice hot air. 

An Eberspacher Model D3LC was chosen for its heat output and reputation for quality. They are readily available in the USA through selected dealers. This model was designed for a slightly smaller boat, but installation space and other factors must be considered. Finding a way to mount the heater, locate the exhaust, and run the heat output required careful planning. After much thought, we settled on mounting the main heat unit high up in the starboard aft lazarette on the stern bulkhead. This is very dry, allows for a good exhaust run, short-run access to the fuel tank and, most important, allows for the 4-inch heat ducts to run under the aft cabin berth...just enough room all the way around! 

The exhaust fitting was mounted immediately under the dockside water connection on the stern, allowing for a suitable gooseneck run to keep seawater out. Care must be taken to avoid direct contact between the exhaust duct and the bulkheads, electrical wiring, and plumbing. Standoffs are included in the installation kit. 

The hot air duct was run around the steering quadrant, again keeping it well clear of critical components, and through an enlarged hole shared by the engine vent and bilge pump hose, entering the aft cabin under the head of the berth. From here it was routed to a 4-inch "y" fitting to run one 4 inch heater hose to each side of the aft berth, just adjacent to the low-level storage drawers. This provides plentiful warm air in the aft cabin, the head, and the galley area when doors are open. The main salon also gets comfortable after a short run time. The forward berth area? Well, not as much. Cabin fans help distribute the heat more evenly. 

The control box was installed on the bulkhead just above the starboard storage locker in the aft cabin. The thermostat was installed above the sink storage area of the head. And, of course, the entire unit has its own breaker on the panel. After careful planning, the installation was done by one person in one day. 

When Samantha is moved to San Francisco the heater will be used frequently. On long cruises in Asia we ran our Catalina 42 heater while underway...it can operate safely at up to 30 degrees of heel. There is no doubt we will do the same with the 380. The only noise is a quiet turbine type of sound, and this varies depending upon the heat demand. No complaints from my crew!

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